IS one able to "safely" start storing dahlias now?
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Starting Dahlias - all wrong?
Comments (6)Poochella, thank you - that helps a lot. I'll repot them into milk cartons as I'd planned, and water them sparingly. They're all coming up and the leaves look really good, so I can't have screwed things up too badly yet. :-) I have a heater in the greenhouse - it never falls below 50 (normally it stays around 58-60 at night and on cold days, but if it drops into the teens at night, it gets down around 50 or so). So freezing isn't an issue at all. I have veggies and annuals growing out there right now that I started from seed - a freeze in the greenhouse would be a complete disaster for our gardens this year. Russ, I did say 13 hours of "daylight", not "sunlight". My greenhouse is situated where the sun hits it very early in the morning, and is on it all day, no trees or anything shading it at all (doors and vents stay open all day on warm, sunny days to keep the heat managable between 70 and 85 or so, and there are fans running in there 24/7). There are about three microclimate zones in my yard - the greenhouse is in the warmest, full sun microclimate, where I have roses (my favorite flowers) starting to leaf out already. I have all manner of annuals and veggies growing out there in the greenhouse, and none are getting leggy at all, so I'd think that if there's enough light for tomatoes, there's probably enough light for the dahlias to get started. They're coming up fine, as I said, the leaves look good, so I think they're getting plenty for now. Obviously as the days get longer, they'll have light longer. I'm not on the "mountain side" of the state - south-central Montana (where I live) is closer to a desert than the cooler mountain regions in the western parts of the state. And I never said I didn't like dahlias...I said my husband loves them (which he does). I like the flowers, but I have more of a passion for roses personally (don't have to dig them up in the fall). Maybe I'll fall in love with dahlias after growing them for a season or so - but I won't know if I don't try! My hubby doesn't care much for typing or forums, and he would never "make" me ask anything, anywhere "for him" (he wouldn't have asked for himself either...he'd just throw them in a pot and let them grow or not, as his dad does). I asked of my own free will, because I was interested in how to get them the best start possible. It's my nature to jump into whatever I decide to do with both feet. I am interested because I love my husband, he loves dahlias, and that makes me want to have some in the garden for him, regardless of some extra work in spring and fall. Have you never grown something just because someone in your family really likes it? In any case, thanks for the advice. I'm sure we can get the dahlias off to a good start this year now....See MoreIs it OK to start many dahlias in pots then transplant later?
Comments (9)If you used a potting soil with fertilizer in it, do you really need to add more now? Do the leaves show signs of lacking fertilizer? Out of several hundred, 2 of mine have pale yellowish leaves and all the rest look fine and healthy. I dosed those two today with a balanced fertilizer. Learn to look at your plants and see what they are telling you. Don't buy into the hype over fertilizers. I only fertilize mine when I plant them out in the garden by mixing alfalfa pellets, compost and organic tomato fertilizer into the soil I plant them into. Mostly depends on the brand of potting mix you use and what is in it....See MoreStoring Dahlia Tubers the Old Fashion Way
Comments (9)Hi Poochella! As the say seeing is believing! I hope my photos will be as impressive when I get around to posting? I wrote the below and was ready to paste before I saw your 2nd reply with photos. Jim Hi jroot and Poochella and of course All! Thanks for your replies. I sort of thought someone would think I was not serious about the 8' tall Dahlia plants because Ive never seen them before either. But it is the truth as Poochella said. I candidly thought I was doing something wrong. But I will say this; my wife thinks their beautiful and likes looking out the window at them, plus my next door neighbor told my daughter when she sits on her patio she feels like shes at a park. Im so happy we missed the frost of Sat morning 9/30, here in the Syracuse NY area as I have a brother from Binghamton NY, actually Conklin which is 90 miles S of Syracuse who will be visiting this coming weekend. He too has never seen 8'ers. Amazingly with a 1½ degree southerly latitude difference between his home and ours, his area is classified as Zone 4a/b where ours is Zone 5a. So that could possibly be a great deal to cause the tallness factor. Longer warmth and as much as a 2 to 3 week more of growing season can make a big difference Im sure. I gave him a tuber this Spring but his never materialized to that height. I just went out to measure what I think is the tallest and it does measure just shy of 8', and Im sure with the temps in the low 50's to middle and upper 70's on a couple of days this week they'll reach beyond that height. I will get a couple of photos, hopefully today. Another thing I would like to point out is without trying to embellish is, first, jroot like you this is a favorite Forum. The learning content is great and the photos are exhilarating, and Im envious of the photography. To be so gifted. Second, as to the tall growth. I learned after the fact that its not so good to fertilize or should I say over fertilize. I'm sure it came via this Forum. Well, for the past two years Ive taken fresh horse manure, mixed it in a 5-gal pail until it was broken down and then added more until I had the pail almost full of manure. I then put this in my six cu ft construction wheel barrel and added collected rainwater. I fill the barrel at least twice and get possibly as much as 50 gals of liquid that I strain back into 5 gal pails. I also add five tablespoons of Miracle Grow to each pail. (Talk about over fertilization!) Then with a watering can I pour at the base of each plant and generally have enough left over and pour over the plant itself. I did this three times during the growing season. One thing Ive recently noticed as I pass a few properties where Dahlias are visibly growing, is the leaf structure from the stem base ½ way up on many or most plants have already turned brown and crumbly dead looking. I have very little to no brown on my leaf structure. The same areas of growing but why the difference? Is it the soil PH or the rich mixture? I have not a phantom of an idea. And 3rdly I have to add I enjoy reading the posts from this Forums Group. As much as I hate the thought of being just a few weeks away from Winter where our average snowfall is over 100", I cant wait to get caught up on the Groups Tips and Success after blowing out the driveway. Believe me, Id rather be Gardening, and the Gardening Forum is the closest I can get :>) Jim...See MoreFloor Safe or wall safe? Anyone have one?
Comments (16)I know this is an old thread, and I already commented on it, but we just bought a safe, and in the process of researching, I've learned a few things that weren't obvious to me: - Fireproofing absolutely matters, but so does waterproof! Keep in mind that if you have a fire, the firemen are going to soak your safe thoroughly. If they don't, you won't be able to touch the safe for at least half a day. It'll be hot. - If you want to bolt your safe to the floor, you must drill holes in the bottom -- and there goes your waterproofing. An alternative is to "build in the safe" so that wooden beams prevent it from sliding out of its hidey hole. This is not easy to arrange, and thieves can bust it open with an axe; however, it would take time, and most thieves like to be in and out quickly. - Likewise, if you are building an in-floor safe, it seems logical that waterproofing the safe will be near impossible. If firemen were putting out a fire in your house, your in-floor safe would be underneath everything, including water. - The walls of most safe brands contain miniscule bits of encapsulated water, and that's what makes them fireproof. However, because these bits of water would be released in case of fire, it's also wise to store your valuable papers and/or guns in ziplock bags. - Certain name brands of safes contain PLASTIC in -- what's the right word? -- spindles? rods? closey-sticks? that are designed to melt in a fire so that NO ONE can get into the safe right away. This is meant to deter strangers from coming into the wreckage of your burned house and toting off your safe. The company will then replace your safe for free. I think this is a HORRIBLE arrangement, and we bought a different name brand. My thought process: We keep some cash money in our safe, and if we were to have a fire, that cash money is probably the #1 thing I'd want NOW. When my brother's house burned, he literally had nothing but a pair of PJs. My other brother brought him clothes and shoes from his own closet, but he needed eye glasses and diabetes meds NOW. He needed money, and the bank didn't want to give it to him without ID, which he had lost. I would hate to know that I had plenty of cash money in my melted safe, and the company would get it out for me at their earliest convenience. As soon as I learned this fact, I crossed that brand name off the list. - You need to choose between manual and digital operations. We read a number of negative reviews concerning the digital mechanisms, so we bought a manual safe. At the very least, you'll need to replace batteries in a digital safe. And a safe is HARD to open! You can also get a key and bypass the combination altogether. - If you're going to buy online, be sure to go look at safes in person first. The walls are thicker than you might expect, and you care about internal dimensions. Personally, I cared about my safe being large enough to hold a notebook containing documents. - We ended up buying a safe from Craigslist for $45. Great deal, and -- no -- we have no concerns about the guy coming to rob us because he doesn't know where we live. He gave us the combination but not a key. Using the numbers on the wheel, my husband was able to order a key off the internet (yeah, I have a bit of a problem with that too, but realistically those numbers were awfully small, and a thief would have a hard time getting them, then returning to your house once he'd obtained a key). - Our plan is still as I described above: We plan to build a locking closet, and it will contain the two safes we now own (one for passports and cash, the other larger one for documents) . . . plus space that's just behind a locked door, which will keep out most people....See Morerouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a)
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