Where in California or in the US do think has the best rose climate?
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Comments (6)Thanks for the information--I'm also comparing with what they say in the Austin catalog, which is that Ambridge rose, Carding Mill, The Alnwick Rose and Winchester Cathedral all end up on their hot/dry climate rose list and Sharifa Asma is on their hot/humid list. I'm finding this hard to believe for Alnwick rose though, since these blooms seem to wilt in the heat of my St. Louis garden. I see someone in Texas has had good success with Scepter'd Isle and Ambridge rose also I wanted to get one of the smaller ones Austin sells as a container plant rather than bare root, since it will be a gift and my friend may want to keep it potted for a while. I'm tending to think given the color scheme they have in their yard that he'd like a white/cream or pale pink one, maybe: Scepter'd Isle Eglantyne Sharifa Asma Winchester Cathedral. Let me know if you have any opinions/info about any of these....See MoreBest orange-color rose for coastal San Diego climate
Comments (11)Thank you so much, Hoovb. I am truly grateful. Does your EDI fades to pink? What else, on your opinion, would look good between HC and Strike it Rich? Also, the flower bed gets all day hot-hot sun. I thought about Chihuly but I already have it planted in the opposite flower bed. It is really important about the mildew and rust resistance. After years of trying...a week ago I had to get rid of Gypsy and another rose that were truly complementing my Julia C. So now she is looking for new friends too. I spent days on Internet trying to decideðÂÂÂ. Please help! Overall, what would be of your rust and mildew-free roses? I am 5 miles from the ocean. Thanks...See MoreBest roses for full sun in a Mediterranean climate?
Comments (12)Welcome, Erica! I garden in Sacramento, which has a Mediterranean climate, too. It can be intensely hot here, although it cools down in the evenings, thank goodness. Some rose blossoms scorch in the summer heat, particularly red or semi-double flowers, but adequate water really does help. Yellows often bleach out. I wouldn't worry about dappled light in the winter, or the intensity of the summer sun. There are many roses that will do just fine, and keep pumping out the blooms throughout the summer. Teas, chinas, tea-noisettes and hybrid musks are all reliable, virtually evergreen and in frequent, if not constant, bloom. I work with two different gardens - one is a collection of old found roses in the Sacramento cemetery's Historic Rose Garden. The soil there is sandy and well-drained, and there is room for the roses to get huge. At home, soil is silt/clay, and there is much less room. You can look at Helpmefind roses and see what roses are in each garden (Sacramento Historic Rose Garden and Anita's garden), and ask me about how specific varieties are doing. Polyanthas do well too - Perle d'Or and Marie Pavie are particular favorites. Chinas are good. Some of the early Hybrid Teas, such as Mme. Caroline Testout and Kauserin Auguste Viktoria, are in nearly constant bloom. The Austins are a mixed bag. They tend to grow much taller than English sources say, and the flowers may not be as big or intensely colored. For example, I've seen William Shakespeare 2000 in New Zealand, France and Sacramento - it was drop-dead gorgeous everywhere but here, where it is much smaller and washed-out. Enjoy. Looking forward to hearing about your choices, and how your garden develops! Anita...See MoreLinks to hardy roses in cold zones & best roses for hot & dry climate?
Comments (30)Below is the info. that Floweraremusic (zone 5) in Washington gave on her 2020 winter-survival. She has alkaline clay with rocks at bottom like mine & less snow in winter: "My hardiest roses are the Canadians. John Davis, John Cabot, Wm. Baffin, Morden Sunrise, Morden Blush and Morden Centennial, Victorian Memory aka Isabelle Skinner, also a Canadian rose. All these only have tiny bit of tip damage and bloom a lot with no special care. Also, my Hybrid Perpetuals only have tip damage after winter. Magna Charta, Mrs. John Laing, Black Prince and Marchesa Buccella. The only negative is they don’t have long enough cutting stems. All my Austins are very hardy. The one I just can not grow is Jude. Leonardo da Vinci is super hardy and always healthy. Quietness comes through winter very well. Even Rouge Royale survives beautifully. Cinderella Fairy Tale is very hardy. Gruss an Aachen also. Ballerina and Marjorie Fair are both hardy. Poseidon, Princess Charlene de Monaco and Crazy Love didn’t do as well as I’d hoped. The surprise losses this year are Quicksilver, and Dames de Chenonceau who is left with only 1 cane. Versigny is also reduced down to almost nothing. This was a mild winter with very little snow. " Floweraremusic (zone 5). From StrawChicago (zone 5a with hard black-gumbo alkaline clay & less snow but with freezing rain in winter). Versigny didn't survive winter either. So I lost Versigny TWICE. Besides Versigny, other wimpy own-root roses that don't survive winter well: Paul Neyron, Anna's Promise, Pink Peace (own-root died 1st winter, but grafted-Pink Peace survives many winter), Elantyne, Jude the Obscure, Young Lycidas (bought as grafted-on-Dr.Huey, now with only one cane), Mary Daly, and many floribundas don't survive my zone 5a: Pink Chiffon, Sheila's perfume, King Arthur, Deep Purple, Shocking blue, Honey Bouquet (survived 1 winter). Polka Climber (survived 1 winter), Cloutilde Soupert (died twice on me). Sutter's Gold didn't survive winter, same with many fragrant mini-roses from Burlington nursery. Below are my hardy OWN-ROOT roses in my zone 5a alkaline clay, only Double Delight, Young Lycidas and Lavender Crush are grafted-on-Dr.Huey. Bold-faced are the very vigorous ones: Own-roots with 3 feet of green canes: Carding Mill (since 2012), Princess Charlene of Monaco, Duchess de Rohan, Crown Princess Magareta (since 2012), Zepherine Drouhin, Lady of Shalott, James Galway, Lavender Crush, Queen of Sweden (gave away but very hardy), Poseidon (right below the rain-spout, dug down to 2.5 feet), Scepter'd Isle (very big & hardy own-root but gave that away with its lousy scent). Own-roots with 2 feet of green canes: La Reine (many winters), Blue Mist (since 2012), Prairie Harvest (since 2014), Mary Magdalene (since 2011), Evelyn (since 2012), Radio Times (since 2011), Pat Austin (since 2011), Christopher Marlowe (since 2011), Golden Celebration (since 2011), Lilian Austin (gave away but very hardy), the Squire, the Dark Lady, Wise Portia survived 4 winters but died in poor drainage clay, Dee-lish (since 2015), Twilight Zone (since 2016), William Shakespeare. 2000 (since 2011), Comte de Chambord (since 2012), Princess Anne, Sweet Mademoiselles, Aloha climber, Orchid Romance, Bohemian Rhapsody, Marie Pavie, Lagerfeld (since 2017), Frederic Mistral survived 2 winters but died when I didn't winter-protect with leaves, Sonia Rykiel (survived 3 winters) but died in freezing rain winter, same with 1/4 of the street-trees in my neighborhood, Excellenz von Shubert (since 2013), Own-roots with less than 1 foot of green canes: Gina's rose, Tchaikosky (since 2015), Cornelia (since 2018), Bolero (few winters), Peter Mayle, Sharifa Asma, Neil Diamond, Amber Queen, A Shopshire Lad, Strike it Rich, Old Port (since 2012), Veteran's Honor (many winters), Double Delight (grafted on Dr.Huey), Savannah, Tess of d'Uberville, Gene Boerner (since 2014), thornless Yves Seedling (since 2013), Stephen big Purple (since 2012), Louise Este, Mirandy, Crimson Glory, Liv Tyler survived 1 winter but needs winter-protection, Rouge Royal (bought last year with no winter-protection). Annie L. McDowell (survived 2 winters but needs a wet-spot since it's almost thornless), Nahema (survived 1 winter then died during freezing-rain winter), same with Eyes-for-you (drought-tolerant and doesn't like freezing wet winter), Souvenir du President Lincoln, Madame Issac Pererie and Madame Earnest Calvat, Firefighter (survived 2 winters) but died since it's next to tree. Bayes Blueberry (survived many winters but I gave away), Charles Darwin (gave away since it fades badly), Arthur Bell (since 2012 & killed it since I don't like the flowers). StrawChicago....See MoreBenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
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